Folding VS Body Position

[crabby]

It's all just really about trying to find order in chaos.
What got me going was the image you posted.
I have made many jumps from that object :7
I guess you were doing her Big Sister across the street?

[PerFlare]

As Lukas "Cold Steel" Knutsson used to put it to he's students "Body position is paramount!" and I agree.

About the leg straps ... why would you choose to have one longer then the other?

And yes I have flown a highly wing loaded skydiving canopy ... but I do not usually talk about that skydiving thing ...

PerFlare
Member Team Bautasten

[BaseFetish]

Definitely not on purpose....with the leg straps.

If one strap was pulled in an inch or 1/2 in tighter, that would effectively make one riser an inch or 1/2 longer, resulting in canopy influence....

basefetish

[kleggo]

"I have made many jumps from that object "

really?
recently?

i haven't been off either of the two since they were known as the crocker bank towers.

let's chat

cfenstermaker@cryocor.com

[imported_Tom Aiello]

My rough thoughts on what effects opening heading:

30% body position
30% wind
15% packing
25% random black death factor that tries to kill you

Obviously, this depends on the jump (with short delays or very high winds, wind can begin to govern openings).

Nope, I fly my Stiletto at 1.5, and I doubt I'll ever fly anything more loaded than that. So, I've got no idea if that's similar to a skydiving canopy or not.

--Tom Aiello
tbaiello@mac.com

[735]

Going along with Tom. I think that there are other factors that will effect your heading performance. I would suspect that your Harness would have more of an impact on opening if you were loading your canopy heavily. Obviously you wouldn't want to be sloppy donning your equipment. I am a believer that your packing effects opening as much as anything else, next would be body position, then wind velocity and direction (in normal enviroment's). I jump a VX at approx 2.5:1 This is dirsctle effected by both Harness and body position. It is kind of hard to test crosswind performance in skydiving. But this is tried and true to me on the other issues. This is just my .02


Jess
BASE: 735

[BaseFetish]

I think the odds are more like:

80% Body Position
15% Packing
4% Black Death Smack Down factor
1% how cool you are

Assuming a no wind situation.

I jump a VX 96 loaded at 2.4.

[crabby]

No, it was in '95 and '96. I have a friend who worked there. :7
He quit working in the building, I quit jumping it. :-(
It was fine when I had the passcard. ;-)

[BaseFetish]

Packing VS Body Position?

For On Heading performance, how much do you think ieither one affects it?

Obviously, Joey Headdown can have drastic effects for on heading perfomance, but what about subtle leg movements, hip position or one strap longer than the other?

Similar to how that affects a highly wing loaded canopy on opening?

If you reply, have you ever flown a highly wing loaded skydiving canopy?



BaseFetish

[crwper]

Just a quick correction on the math... Assuming the leg straps close into a roughly circular shape, and that the line of the main lift web, if extended, would pass through the center of that circle... Since circumference is pi times diameter, having your leg strap an inch tighter should result in the equivalent of about 5/16 inch change in the riser...

Michael

[Big H 728]

I think it's like this!!

80% body position :*
10% X-factor
5% Pack job
5% Wind
That's in nill to very light winds.

The wind% goes up substasially as the wind does, wind can slow an opening down a lot, and canopy's like to open into wind.

My opinion......

[clint]

>About the leg straps ... why would you choose to have one longer then the other.
You really wouldn't but lets say(true story) that one leg was bigger than the other? I just met this guy and he told me the story about how he had 15jumps where he had 180's. Couldn't figure it out, he called up Adam Fil.... and he didn't know but he, just for schit and giggles he asked him to measure his thighs. His right side was 2 inches bigger than his left, hense his 180's. Not a 180 after that, well maybe one due to schit happens.
Clint

[Mac]

Not sure about the history of this thread, as in where the original post is?! - but recently someone asked me about off headings and packing, and this kinda went with my thoughts... body position and other factors are more of an effect than packing..... especially body position and wind.

[lifewithoutanet]

Not sure about the history of this thread, as in where the original post is?! - but recently someone asked me about off headings and packing, and this kinda went with my thoughts... body position and other factors are more of an effect than packing..... especially body position and wind.

If you've ever stack-packed or watched one of Abbie's stack-packjob openings, you'd certainly agree... Biggest ball of shit...perfect on-heading. Nice and fast, but I still won't take one of them off anything solid.
-C.

[hamsandwich]

30% body position
30% wind
15% packing
25% random black death factor that tries to kill you

25%???? This is why you've been life-flighted so many times. Keep blaming it on an x-factor...

I think the odds are more like:
80% Body Position
15% Packing
4% Black Death Smack Down factor
1% how cool you are

This is closer to how i think... but being cool is so much more important... seriously! if you're cool (in the sense of calm, though), you're less likely to get stiff and off axis... if you're a cool daddyo you can relax and have the good body position you want.

Packing VS Body Position?
Similar to how that affects a highly wing loaded canopy on opening?
BaseFetish

Highly loaded skyfalling canopies are also highly elliptical and radical designs. A PD-99 reserve wont react at all the same to a VX99 on asymetrical loading during deployment.

Just a quick correction on the math... Assuming the leg straps close into a roughly circular shape, and that the line of the main lift web, if extended, would pass through the center of that circle... Since circumference is pi times diameter, having your leg strap an inch tighter should result in the equivalent of about 5/16 inch change in the riser...
Michael

Asuming you weren't such a big nerd.... Hope to see you again soon. I'm working on coming to canadia again. slap sabredave on the ass for me.

I think it's like this!!
The wind% goes up substasially as the wind does, wind can slow an opening down a lot, and canopy's like to open into wind.
My opinion......

i find that canopies will open right into the wind if you're favoring into it and the oppositie if you're favoring downwind. i dont like a direct crosswind, its a crapshoot, pluss your lines can get blown over the top for that lineover you've always wanted to see. I like to cheat it into the wind a bit on a x-wind, if I've decided not to walk away because of the conditons.

If you've ever stack-packed or watched one of Abbie's stack-packjob openings, you'd certainly agree... Biggest ball of shit...perfect on-heading. Nice and fast, but I still won't take one of them off anything solid.
-C.

Hehe.. i got stack-pack BASE+O.

Are there better and worse pack jobs? Hell yeah there are and they will give us an edge, but most i think have any issues arise from body position, not the packjob.

just about a month ago i packed for one of the most experienced jumpers i know... there may or may not have been mushrooms, salvia, alcohol, and a stackpack involved. Guess what, he was fine and on-heading cause he knows how to stick it.

None of this is advice to stackpack but you'll see it if i'm packing for the perrine.

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