OK, I understand about Bert, he definitely deserves some down time. Does anyone know about an alternative to Bert? Are there other excursion companies that will do the same thing and haven't put their boats away? And before anyone get's pissed, I only ask that because I reeeeelly wanna jump there thanksgiving. Would never use anyone but Bert for pickup when he is available, he is really cool and makes jumping there so easy (but I'm sure much praise has been heaped upon Bert in the past on this forum, so I'm not saying anything new.) Has anyone done the hike from the landing area back to the boat ramp? How is that? I'll walk back if it's not a major pain in the ass.