Hi Nick,
Thanks for your work, it's an unpleasant job, we should all be glad someone is willing to keep it up to date. I wish you could stop.
There's an entry I think should be added.
Our good friend Dave Flannel was killed this past Autumn.
He perished on a BASE expedition to the Cave.
Not a BASE death,
but a BASE jumper killed just barely outside the sport.
All due respect.
RIP Dave.
Thanks for the reminder. I'll add Dave to the List.
Also, does anyone have a name for the last jumper on the list? Or any more details about the incident? (This was the bridge jump in France).
Nick
BASE 194
Hi Everyone,
I have updated the BASE Fatality List. I also had to move to a different server. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but please change you links and bookmarks to reflect the new URL.
The World BASE Fatality List is now here:
http://hometown.aol.com/base194/myho..._fatality_list
Nick DG
BASE 194
My name is Wayne Stout and I just sent a message to you from the list itself. I can not determine if it went through. I had some comments about Brian Stout's portion of the list. Brian was killed on June 15, 2002 at the Perrine.
If you received my comments, great. If you didn't, could you please let me know?
Thank You,
Wayne Stout
Brian's Father
Hello Mr. Stout,
No, I didn't see anything from you today in my e-mail. You can send e-mail to me directly at:
base194@aol.com
Nick
Here's a easier URL for the BASE Fatality List . . .
http://www.basefatalities.info/
Thanks to Craig for setting that up.
Nick D
BASE 194
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I have updated the BASE Fatality List. I also had to move to a
>different server. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but please
>change you links and bookmarks to reflect the new URL.
>
>The World BASE Fatality List is now here:
>
>http://hometown.aol.com/base194/myho..._fatality_list
>
>Nick DG
>BASE 194
>
#39 Terry Forrester, June 10, 1999 was actually '2000'.
Just a suggestion, but maybe the fatality list would be more balanced if it contained some background info and statistics on base jumping versus other sports.
I've noticed that the media is incorporating the fatality list (or jumpers are feeding the info to the media) into nearly all BASE jumping articles. I'm always hearing lines like "there have been over 70 deaths in the sport of BASE jumping...".
While accurate stats are a great tool, perhaps supplimenting the fatility list will better compare our sport to other "normal" sports such as biking, skiing, and whitewater rafting where HUNDREDS of people die each year.
COOL FACT:
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According to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission there were 37 known vending machine fatalities between 1978 and 1995 (only 31 for BASE in the same time period), for an average of 2.18 deaths per year. Over the past decade there were a total of six recorded shark attack fatalities in the U.S., for an average of .6 deaths per year. Ergo, barring a drastic reduction in the frequency of vending machine accidents since 1995, vending machines are indeed more deadly than sharks by a factor of almost four.
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Jason Bell (BASE428)
Email: jbell@vertical-visions.com
Web: www.vertical-visions.com or www.bridgeday.info
> #39 Terry Forrester, June 10, 1999 was actually '2000'.
And it's actually Terry Forrestal
Thanks for the dates and spelling for Terry. I knew the right spelling, but theres a million little details in there . . .
Jason,
I agree the true lessons and statistics of the list are not understood by everyone who reads it, including probably some of us. However, I started the list as a safety tool for BASE jumpers and I don't want anything to get in the way of that. It stands on its own, with no explanations given, and I can't bring myself to pander to the dumbest in the room by qualifying it all.
I suppose I meant to write the list in way, and in a format, that jumpers recognize and understand and most people outside the know wouldnt. Yet, those decisions are made almost fifteen years ago when BASE is like on another planet. Im actually thinking of taking the list off the web altogether. Id keep it up and make it available free to jumpers maybe through Rick & Joy (dont say anything I havent asked them yet) and the people running the first BASE courses that use it.
Ya think?
Nick D:-)
BASE 194
Nick i would be sad not to be abel to go see that list. its a great reminder to me that evrybody can die,its like a grave yard to me,it aint a pleassent place to be,but werry informative.
just my 0.2
Have Fun
Faber
Being dead but not dead BASE #!
Nominated by Spiderman...
>I’m actually thinking of taking the list off the web altogether.
Please don't.
I know recently I forwarded the link to some new jumpers in a relatively "BASE isolated" place (northern Africa) who found it very educational. I'd hate for people like that to miss the information.
It's good for all of us to review it periodically. And that's far less likely to happen if you have to write to Rick asking for it.
--Tom Aiello
tbaiello@mac.com
Hi Nick
Please keep the list up on the web
It is a great tool to show jumpers geting or wanting to get into the sport ,that this is not like most sports you make a mistake and it can be your last .
And Jason wanting to compare our sport to others is stupid like here in Australia the most deadly sport is rock fising kills 100plus a year and base in Oz history only 4 but look how many rock fish to how many base jump and it still shows that our sport is more deadly.
I have a lot of Good mates on that list and dont want to join them
ps Nick What happened to the grim reaper holding the cristal ball with the number in it can you bring that back ...
bsbd feral Inject saline in your contact's
Sorry Nick, but it is a VERY BAD! idea to take your list off the web.
It is the best reality examples in existance! This also helps people to remember their friends, and keep safety in mind.
I fully support the list, and if you need server help to keep the list going, let me know!
Nick,
How about having users enter a password to view the list?
This can easily be done on most servers. The password can be provided to any jumper wanting to review it, but it wouldn't be accessible for the media scum out there.
Feral,
Comparing our sport to others may be a bit unbalanced, but so is the media. The media enjoys mentioning the 70+ BASE deaths with every article they publish, so a simple reality check showing that people DO die in other sports doesn't really seem that "stupid" to me.
"Stupid" is better defined by one's failure to spell beyond the 2nd grade level....but I won't mention any names:P
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Jason Bell (BASE428)
Email: jbell@vertical-visions.com
Web: www.vertical-visions.com or www.bridgeday.info
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