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October 25th, 1999, 04:05 PM
It all seems pretty pointless at this time,but I will give it a go anyway.
The facts are, we lost a great wife, familymember, friend, girl, hero, name, (or just a great one ! )
My heartfelt grief goes to Tom, family and friends !!!
My heartfelt grief goes to Tom, family and friends !!!
Who cares about Nazi's, (and will an educated American please explain what their grandmothers told of them, and how their understanding of them came true ?)
Choose your analogy as you wish. Some of us see this happening, nationality or continent doesn't seem to matter. The rights of the individuals are beeing decreased by the minutes. What can you do ? Unfortunately, not much. The overpowering force of society is greater that our truth. Who cares anyway. http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif Only the people who see life for the beuty it really is. And I do include all of them, climbers, cayakers, off piste skiers (and all the ones I left out ), not only basejumpers. I've met enough arrogant basejumpers to last as long as you want and I'm new to the game. http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif Choice is only that : a choice. Who has heard, and understood our history, told by the true pioneers. How many discount Dennis's account of the early one's, or Todd's.Rick's, Randy's, Jean's, Avery's, Frank's or Jan's ...
Sure, you may be the hotshot of your street (dz)and may live in the spotlight it gives (haven't we all felt it and been proud of it at times ?), but who does that make you ? I've seen too many, and heard of to many ( by my accounts, by reliable sources) fucked up geeks get into this sport for the "wrong" reasons. Who am I to judge ? Well just a nobody, (I've seen my share, but who really cares ?) But here is my 2 cents. I've seen to many people see how "safe" basejumping is, how "cool" it is, and not least, the most frequently asked question : How do I get started ?
My answer would exclude alot of todays jumpers, and therefore, I must be a geek... "Try to understand the sport, take your time, get to know skydiving, then as you progress, learn to know basejumpers, try to understand them, and if you do, tie bonds that last a lifetime ! "
Sure we all have seen our share of people thrown off a bridge, going pilot chute assist, and no other option than a waterlanding, what does this tell the world (or our fellow jumpers ?) That we don't give a ##### as to their experience level, we can take our grandmother basejumping... Sure... My flight instructor used to say : "you can teach a monkey how to fly, all you have to do is bring enough bananas."
Trying to explain our deepest feelings, and memories, (did you talk to your mother lately, and did she share your views?) http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif is not possible, it just doesn't happen.
Trying to describe basejumping, by purely pointing out the egoistic adrenaline rush we get from the jump is pointless. Did you ever try to explain to someone that their sex experiences are all centered around the climax ; the orgasm ? Of course the climax is there. But as for sex, there is the touching of your mates skin, the feelings aroused by the relationship you have, the love you feel, the journey you have to travel together. So is there more to the basejump. But like trying to explain the act of love to someone not included, so is it impossible to explain everything that comes with basejumping.
Some things are left best not explained. But then you have the unfortunate actions by "the Authorities." (Tm) They will use this for everything it is worth. Sure, you may use the same laws used against them, ("letter of the law"), to combat the unjust actions taken against us as a group. This may take a little more time (but not more enery http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif ) than Base 44 is willing to put up with. http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif But then, what choices do you Americans have ? USPA ? HAHA. ( Sorry, i could help it http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif )
But this I will say, it will get worse before it gets better, if it ever gets better !
Our community is today being ruined by the same people who ruined skydiving (you know the Ken and Barbie skydiver) years ago. It's to late as well, we can't do anything to deny them. It would be denying our own deeper spirit to put limits on anyone, and who are we to tell them that "they are in it for the wrong reasons ?" And by the way, without them, skydiving wouldn't have gotten as big and prosperous as it has.
I still feel as though I have barely touched the surface, but bare with my occasional rantings http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif
Please understand that my rantings give no discount to Jan's accomplised goals. Neither are they a cheap attack on the ones of us who grieve our loss. But they are an attack on our culture, which is, day by day, turning into Ken and Barbie world...
Jan was a true doll, not the barbie lookalike !!
My heartfelt grief goes to Tom, family and friends !!!
Captn Chaos
The facts are, we lost a great wife, familymember, friend, girl, hero, name, (or just a great one ! )
My heartfelt grief goes to Tom, family and friends !!!
My heartfelt grief goes to Tom, family and friends !!!
Who cares about Nazi's, (and will an educated American please explain what their grandmothers told of them, and how their understanding of them came true ?)
Choose your analogy as you wish. Some of us see this happening, nationality or continent doesn't seem to matter. The rights of the individuals are beeing decreased by the minutes. What can you do ? Unfortunately, not much. The overpowering force of society is greater that our truth. Who cares anyway. http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif Only the people who see life for the beuty it really is. And I do include all of them, climbers, cayakers, off piste skiers (and all the ones I left out ), not only basejumpers. I've met enough arrogant basejumpers to last as long as you want and I'm new to the game. http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif Choice is only that : a choice. Who has heard, and understood our history, told by the true pioneers. How many discount Dennis's account of the early one's, or Todd's.Rick's, Randy's, Jean's, Avery's, Frank's or Jan's ...
Sure, you may be the hotshot of your street (dz)and may live in the spotlight it gives (haven't we all felt it and been proud of it at times ?), but who does that make you ? I've seen too many, and heard of to many ( by my accounts, by reliable sources) fucked up geeks get into this sport for the "wrong" reasons. Who am I to judge ? Well just a nobody, (I've seen my share, but who really cares ?) But here is my 2 cents. I've seen to many people see how "safe" basejumping is, how "cool" it is, and not least, the most frequently asked question : How do I get started ?
My answer would exclude alot of todays jumpers, and therefore, I must be a geek... "Try to understand the sport, take your time, get to know skydiving, then as you progress, learn to know basejumpers, try to understand them, and if you do, tie bonds that last a lifetime ! "
Sure we all have seen our share of people thrown off a bridge, going pilot chute assist, and no other option than a waterlanding, what does this tell the world (or our fellow jumpers ?) That we don't give a ##### as to their experience level, we can take our grandmother basejumping... Sure... My flight instructor used to say : "you can teach a monkey how to fly, all you have to do is bring enough bananas."
Trying to explain our deepest feelings, and memories, (did you talk to your mother lately, and did she share your views?) http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif is not possible, it just doesn't happen.
Trying to describe basejumping, by purely pointing out the egoistic adrenaline rush we get from the jump is pointless. Did you ever try to explain to someone that their sex experiences are all centered around the climax ; the orgasm ? Of course the climax is there. But as for sex, there is the touching of your mates skin, the feelings aroused by the relationship you have, the love you feel, the journey you have to travel together. So is there more to the basejump. But like trying to explain the act of love to someone not included, so is it impossible to explain everything that comes with basejumping.
Some things are left best not explained. But then you have the unfortunate actions by "the Authorities." (Tm) They will use this for everything it is worth. Sure, you may use the same laws used against them, ("letter of the law"), to combat the unjust actions taken against us as a group. This may take a little more time (but not more enery http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif ) than Base 44 is willing to put up with. http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif But then, what choices do you Americans have ? USPA ? HAHA. ( Sorry, i could help it http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif )
But this I will say, it will get worse before it gets better, if it ever gets better !
Our community is today being ruined by the same people who ruined skydiving (you know the Ken and Barbie skydiver) years ago. It's to late as well, we can't do anything to deny them. It would be denying our own deeper spirit to put limits on anyone, and who are we to tell them that "they are in it for the wrong reasons ?" And by the way, without them, skydiving wouldn't have gotten as big and prosperous as it has.
I still feel as though I have barely touched the surface, but bare with my occasional rantings http://www.baselogic.com/forum/images/happy.gif
Please understand that my rantings give no discount to Jan's accomplised goals. Neither are they a cheap attack on the ones of us who grieve our loss. But they are an attack on our culture, which is, day by day, turning into Ken and Barbie world...
Jan was a true doll, not the barbie lookalike !!
My heartfelt grief goes to Tom, family and friends !!!
Captn Chaos