BRIDGE DAY ALERT!!

[guest]

"THERE WILL BE NO ON-SITE REGISTRATION"


G'da*mn it!

[guest]

This is an ILLEGAL scam by the NPS to get social security numbers of active U.S. jumpers so that they can track them more closely.

KNOW THIS: It is a felony for a federal government agency -- ANY federal government agency -- to demand your social security number for any purposes not related to taxation. I think this also applies to a STATE agency demanding your social security number too.

DO NOT COOPERATE with this rape of your rights and privacy.

DO NOT COOPERATE with this rape of your rights and privacy.

DO NOT COOPERATE with this rape of your rights and privacy.

This is NOT a slam on badenhop; he just doesn't know any better. See the CFRs... this demand by government is ILLEGAL.

It is a CRIME for the government to demand this, and the ESCUSE they are using to shut down Bridge Day, which NPS has been trying hard to do, as it flies in the face of their "2001 Management Policies" document which "prohibits" BASE jumping in all NPS units.

Refuse to do this. CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS and tell them of this ILLEGAL DEMAND by state and local authorities.

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[guest]

Will there be any on-site registration? ;-)

[brothermuff65]

if someone signs up now and sends in the required info will they be allowed to reg as they usually have signed there every year they have been there and planned on doing so this year so if they send in info and reg fee like they would have done there that day can they jump ?this seems like a huge infringement on our rights with a tragedy being used to force it through as a reason of national security thanx for your time and could you let me know an answer thanx till later have fun & love each other seeya mb65

[guest]

does this mean that the authorities are going to be requiring ID for EVERY person who wants to WALK across the bridge?? only seems reasonable to me if they're going to require picture ID from each of us!!

this is just another bunch of NPS and government BS!! x(

[guest]

What if, Ben the punk is driving a fuel tanker truck. Has the man thought about Ben the punk or just few harmless base jumpers.

[guest]

I aggree they suck now more than ever!!!!!!!!!!!

i wonder what is next??????????????

[guest]

Are there any chances of the hysteria wearing off and the gestapo allowing on-site registration to resume. Otherwise anybody up for getting together a boogie in Twin Falls? It seems the terrorists are winning...

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."- The Papers of Ben Franklin

Isn't all Liberty essential? (not trying to get a political thread going)

[imported_Tom Aiello]

>Does this mean that the authorities are going to be requiring ID for EVERY person who wants to WALK across the bridge??


It's my understanding that they are going to establish security at each end and ban backpacks, coolers, strollers, etc., on the bridge. They want our ID's because we are going to be the only people allowed to carry anything onto the bridge (our rigs).


--Tom Aiello
tbaiello@ucdavis.edu

[guest]

Sounds clearly like an NPS scam to me. I always said if we all banned together and DIDN'T SHOW UP for Bridge Day, they'd pay US to be there next year. Without us, there is no Bridge Day.

SS# withheld at the moment.

[brothermuff65]

this looks like a job for superman or (Fred Morreli) as the case may be i wonder if he could help out in this matter as it is right up his alley this is clearly a large infringement on our civil rights useing a tragedy to put it through in the name of NATIONAL SECURITY just a lot of B.S.we need help

[guest]

Dude, I mean no disrespect (your entitled to your views and I respect that), but I think you may be a few biscuits shy of breakfast.

Do you really think the NPS wants to track everyone's Social Security Numbers? Do you think that they will follow you around every day? Heck, they might even track you with satellites once your identified!

The NPS is wrong in their persecution of BASE jumpers and they do go to somewhat extraordinary lengths in Yosemite, but face it bro, they are just out to bust BASE jumpers as they see them, or get info that a jump is going to take place.

Will they violate your rights to catch you - there's a real chance of this happening! But I don't think that having my Social Security Number (SSN) is going to do anything for them nor do I think that they will track me via satellite. We're simply jumping off cliffs for Christ's sake.

I jump all the time in National Parks and they have no idea who I am or the fact that me or my parachute was ever there. How do I do this you say? CAREFUL PLANNING and proper execution -- that is the key to jumping in our National Parks.

As for SSN's needed for Bridge Day...wake up and smell the coffee. Well over 6,000 American lives were lost 3 weeks ago today. Do you even think for a moment that they won't increase security at a major event like this where 100,000+ lives could be taken in a single swipe?

The government has every right to request your SSN and it is not against the law. Before you get all fired up, please read the following statement that will coincide with what I just said.

You giving your SSN to the government/state officials is strictly voluntary. But not doing so will most likely hamper your abilities to jump during the Bridge Day event. Bridge Day is not a constitutional right (although it should be) and is strictly a voluntary recreational activity. For that reason, they may request your SSN all day long.

I hope you don't take this personal, I simply have a different view of the NPS, the government, and their desire to "track BASE jumpers". Quite honestly, they have more important things on their hands. I should know, because I am one of them. And the beauty is, they don't even know it.

C-ya,

SS

[460]

What's the address and website for the Bridge Day Association?

[guest]

bridgeday@home.com
www.bridgedayassociation.com

[guest]

Who the hell has biscuits for breakfast. I think you're a few sandwiches short of a bunfight.

[truckerbase]

I can understand increased awareness and caution at bridgeday this year but I hope the nps understands two things: One. There are infinitely better, more symbolic, better known, and easier targets than bridgeday. Any NFL game, Baseball game (televised, as american as apple pie, etc.), any state fair, convention, or in fact, any major american city is infinitely a better and more meaningful target than bridgeday. Even if someone in Afghanistan had heard of bridgeday, and blew it up, if americans or the world read it in the Newspapers they'd be like "what got blown up?" or "So???". It is very unlikely that out of all american events, gatherings, and cities, that this almost illegal event with no specific american associations would be a target, now. The terrorists are on the run and being hunted. Two. Basejumpers are a technically very knowledgeable group, are a very small group; we'd know if a bomber came on to the bridge as a basejumper, we know the gear, we know the look, we know eachother to a great extent. Reasonable security, heightened awareness; but reasonable clearance requirements with sufficient time to provide the requested information. Presidential orders say return to normal.
Let's get a balanced perspective here, NPS, Local law enforcement, state government...

[guest]

must have been a reason for taking out the financial district;

concentratred intelectual powers?, financial infrastructure, visibility and so on.

A bridge in the midlle of somewhere ocupied by loonies? :D
sure

[guest]

Jeez, are you all really that paranoid? It's a wonder anything ever gets jumped.:x

It doesn't matter who knows you jump so long as you don't get caught.

Where's Robin Heid when you need him?

Robin, come and tell us all what we should think.

I'm off to jump the Sheriffs daughter.


:-)

[guest]

You do not have to go - but do check your spelling
:x

[Yuri]

http://www.theonion.com/onion3735/security_beefed_up.html

[guest]

not my language and a slow computer.
ment to say I would feel pretty safe there
failed attempt at sarcasm:-(

[guest]

Bridge Day is canceled..interesting info :x

[base719]

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Re: 2003

Who's gonna run it? Jason we hope. If not who? go fast with "you know who"? Avery?

[base428]

Nobody put in a bid to run it this year. The BDC is talking to Go Fast about running it again. I'd like to be involved with it, but all the time involved along with the HIGH risk of not making a dime is too much.

Perhaps this will be a hint to the BDC that they need to remove the $10 per jumper fee that goes to the Chamber of Commerce.

PS.. The head of the BDC (Keith Spangler) just resigned.

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Jason Bell (BASE428)
Email: jbell@vertical-visions.com
Web: www.vertical-visions.com or www.bridgeday.info

[Peteb]

peteb
Now that Bridge Day 2003 has come and gone I was amused by the posts by various a'holes (above).
This Bridge Day was a huge success and the entire time, including the Friday Trade Show and renewal of old friendships, meeting jumpers from other countries, watching great videos, plenty of Red Bull, excellent planning by Jason Bell, and the highest number of jumps ever made on Bridge Day, made for the greatest jump day ever.
The party that night was also a fuc*ing blast....we stayed up all night.
Only flaw in the whole three days was the lack of focus at the LZ. The DZ crew was negligent in that they never changed the wind "V" even when the wind changed, hence, a couple of broken legs due to being hit by a cross wind. (There was a hard-to-see wind sock but the jumpers had been instructed on Friday night to fuc*king absolutely watch the "V" and head for the opening.)
I made only one jump and that was around 10:30. Then I hung around the LZ to watch the rest of the day. I really wanted to go out there at the landing area from time to time and tell them to pay attention to the wind so those under canopy would not get misled by the wrong direction of the "V" wind indicator; but I figured the LZ crew knew what they were doing...they didn't.
Better get some sharper people in the LZ in 2004.
By the way, the guys at the launch area were really efficient and knew what they were doing. Thus the line of jumpers moved smoothly.
None of the "big time" jumpers, by the way, hit the target. A first time jumper won the accuracy prize.
Pete

[bird]

gotta say a great job was done in lz. this year we brought in some younger jumpers to help us, and learn what needs to be done @ lz. sooner or later we all will be passing the torch to the next generation ( being they are our link to the future), and they need to learn. and by a hands on is the best way in my oppinion. if any body has any sugestions, im open to to all constructive critisism, so let me know your ideas. dont just complain and then hide!!!! 836 jumps, 3 broken bones, all experienced jumpers, (not newbee's)to base, maybe we need to step back and look at how we are doing, getting older, not as sharp as we used to be. all of our lz staff learned something on b-day 2003. wonder if anyone else did? or maybe they know it all!

my thanks to all lz staff that worked their tails off to make it as safe as possible for landing and spectating jumpers . at times we had jumpers running into the lz for no appearant reasons,we also had media, and spectators wanting to stand in the target area, but we tried to deal with this in the best way.if we didnt have these problems to deal with maybe the lz staff could have given their undivided attention!!

all dz staffers were in harms way all day long, being the eyes for the just landed jumper so as the next wouldnt come blasting in and blind side them. we didnt have any of these types of injuries.

the V has worked well, the winds were lite and variable from app 10a thru the day, changing by the minute, we moved the V several times thru the day (3) time to be exact the prime lz area changed, i talked to a lot of jumpers upon landing and asked their oppinion s of the wind and based our decisions on info obtained from them. in my oppinion our staff did a great job, and the injured jumpers can only blame themselves for their injuries. i saw every injury, and they all could have flared higher for a better landing. except the guy that hit the boom truck, and we moved that!! frankly lz staffers were on them upon touchdown, call for medics and helped protect them and the ems from constant danger, until able to medevac from lz.

the biggest safety hazzard in the lz was the jumper that didnt want to clear the lz so the next jumper could us all of the realestate we had secured. dont get me wrong 98% of the jumper picked up their gear and booked out, and i want to thank them for all of their co-operation. this help the lz staff keep the lz safe THANKS TO ALL!!!! 836 jumps, i bet thats a record, in 22 years i dont rember morejumps than that. maybe we can break the 1000 jump barrier next year:) WE CAN DOIT WITH ALL OF YOUR HELP!!!
be safe
bbird32104@aol.com (you wont find me hiding, im easy to find)

[imported_badenhop]

To all Bridge Day participants:

Security in the USA is tight.
The annual Bridge Day Celebration came close to being cancelled.

There are added security measures BDA will be required to enforce so that the jumpers may get access.
These security measures are being mandated by WEST VIRGINIA STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, as well as FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. These requests have not been initiated by BDA, we are required to comply as well.

All US jumpers must provide Social Security #'s, and Drivers License #'s. Please send this information NOW. The sooner you send this information, the sooner you will get your clearance. Authorities in West Virginia will have the ultimate say in jumper approval. If you don't have a picture ID, get one quick.

All Foreign jumpers must provide Passport #'s and Visa information. Please send this information NOW. The sooner you send this information, the sooner you will get your clearance. Authorities in West Virginia will have the ultimate say in jumper approval. If you don't have a picture ID, get one quick.

Please send your identifying information to:
badenhop@home.com
Include your registration #.

THERE WILL BE NO ON-SITE REGISTRATION.
THERE WILL BE NO ON-SITE REGISTRATION.
If you are not pre-registered, please do not come.
The Government will not allow me to add any names at that late date.
If you show up, you will be sadly disappointed.
THERE WILL BE NO ON-SITE REGISTRATION.
THERE WILL BE NO ON-SITE REGISTRATION.

This is a very serious matter, as we have all been working hard for months on our Bridge Day plans, and this latest security development only adds to the logistic turbulence we already face.

Please provide the information requested IMMEDIATELY.
Tell your friends who are also going to Bridge Day, to do the same.